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- [S00044] Newman Carol Documents, Wedding Album.
"bride Carol Sue Kemp"
"mother Geraldine Gillespie,
mothers mother Beulah May Lucke, mothers father Victor Vaughn Gillespie,
mothers maternal g'mother Sarah Jane Clews Luke, mothers maternal g'father Adam John Lucke,
mothers paternal g'mother Cynthia Painter Gillespie, mothers paternal g'father Ozra Henry Gillespie"
"father Robert Ruben Kemp,
fathers mother Anna, fathers father Harry"
- [S00044] Newman Carol Documents, Family Album.
"...
mother Carol Sue Kemp, father Glenn Lee Simpson
grandmother Geraldine Gillespie, grandfather Robert R Kemp, grandmother Laura E Clegg, grandfather Leslie I Simpson,
great grand mother Beulah May Lucke, great grandfather Victor Gillespie, great grandmother Laura E Larson, great grandfather Eastham I Clegg,
great grandmother Anna, great grandfather Harry Kuntzman, great grandmother Estella St. Clair, great grandfather Hubert Simpson"
- [S00061] 1920 US Census, Brooklyn Assembly District 23, Kings, New York; Roll T625_1182; Page: 24A; Enumeration District: 1507; Image: 709. 1/12/1920.
Dwelling 65 Family 446:
"47 Hirzl Street"
"Kuntzman, Harry; Head, home Rented, Male, age 32, Married, immigration 1911, naturalization Al, born ???? Russia speaks Yiddish, father born ???? Russia speaks Yiddish, mother born ???? Russia speaks Yiddish, occupation Butcher Own Shop"
"Kuntzman, Annia; Wife Female, age 28, Married, immigration 1913, naturalization Al, born ???? Russia speaks Yiddish, father born ???? Russia speaks Yiddish, mother born ???? Russia speaks Yiddish, occupation None"
"Kuntzman, Michael; Son, Male, age 5 6/12, Single, born New York, father born ???? Russia speaks Yiddish, mother born ???? Russia speaks Yiddish, occupation None"
"Kuntzman, Reuben; Son, Male, age 2 3/12, Single, born New York, father born ???? Russia speaks Yiddish, mother born ???? Russia speaks Yiddish, occupation None"
- [S00053] 1930 US Census, Brooklyn, Kings, New York; Roll 1498; Page: 10B; Enumeration District: 1319; Image: 595.0. 4/16/1930.
Dwelling 194 Family 194:
"1546 Coney Island Ave"
"Kuntzman Harry; Head, home Owned, Male, age 39, Married, age at first marriage 22, born Russia, father born Russia, mother born Russia, language Yiddish, immigration 1912, Naturalized, occupation Butcher Shop, veteran No"
"Kuntzman, Anna; Wife, Female, age 37, Married, age at first marriage 20, born Russia, father born Russia, mother born Russia, language Yiddish, immigration 1913, Naturalized, occupation None"
"Kuntzman, Michael; Son, Male, age 15, Single, born New York, father born Russia, mother born Russia, occupation None"
"Kuntzman, Rubin; Son, Male, age 13, Single, born New York, father born Russia, mother born Russia, occupation None"
"Kuntzman, Sylvia; Daughter, Female, age 8, Single, born New York, father born Russia, mother born Russia, occupation None"
- [S00059] World War I Draft Registration Cards 1917-1918.
"208 Registration Card No. 203
Harry Kuntzman, age 30, born Sept 10 1886, Alien, Molev, Russia,
address 1409 Enyar, Bclyn, NY,
occupation Butcher Himself 1409 Enyan Bclyn,
support Wife and 2 children, Married, exemption Same as support,
height Medium, build Medium, eyes Blue, hair Brown, bald No, disabilities No,
Precinct 165, Kings County, New York, 6/5/17"
[Note: Mosler quite similar to illegible birth country in 1920 Census]
- [S00070] World War II Draft Registration Cards 1942, Roll WW2_2370001; Local board: Kings , New York.
"Registration Card s/n 601,
Harry Kuntzman, residence 1546 Coney Island Ave, Brooklyn, Kings, NY, phone NAV8-8942,
age 51, born Smolensk Russia, Sept 16 1891,
contact Anna Kuntzman, 1546 Coney Island Ave Bklyn NY,
employer Own Business - Harry Kuntzman, 1546 Coney Island Ave, Broklyn, Kings, NY,
height 5-5, weight 135, eyes Blue, hair Brown, complexion Light Brown,
local board 136 Kings County NY, 4/26/42"
[Same address as 1920/1930 so this confirmed Harry.]
- [S00047] US Social Security Death Index 1935-2014.
"Harry Kuntzman
Last Residence: 33139 Miami, Miami-Dade, Florida
Born: 15 Oct 1887 Died: Aug 1987
SSN issued: New York (1951) "
- [S00094] Ancestry Trees, Kamm Family Tree (lindsaykamm).
"Harry Kuntzman, b 16 Sep 1891, Smalensk, Russia, d 15 Aug 1987, Miami, Florida"
"Anya Gerb, b Russia, d 1973 Florida"
Children:
"Michael Lewis Kuntzman, b 1914 NY, d 27 Jan 1985, Koloa, HI,
m Lenore Kasdan, b 23 Jan 1916, Larchmont, NY, d Nov 1990,
3 children Living Kamm son, Living Kamm son, Living Kamm son"
"Reuben Kuntzman, b 1918 NY, m Geraldine, children Andy Kemp, Roberta Kemp, Amy Kemp"
"Sylvia Kuntzman, b 1923 NY"
- [S00162] Ancestry, Florida Death Index 1877-1998 Original data: State of Florida. Florida Death Index, 1877-1998. Florida: Florida Department of Health, Office of Vital Records, 1998.
"Harry Kuntzman
Death Date: 15 Aug 1987 County of Death: Dade State of Death: Florida Age at Death: 98 Birth Date: 3 Mar 1889"
- [S00044] Newman Carol Documents, Address Book.
"John Gillespie, 805-646-6808, Ojai, Calif 93023"
"Vernon Gillespie, 350 W. 15th South, Mountain Home, Idaho 83647"
"Katie Gillespie, 225 No. Lomita, Ojai, Calif 93203"
"Gillespie, Kent+Donna, Rt 2 Box 2158, Buoley, Idaho 83318"
"Kamm - Michael, 7 Easton Ct, Orinda"
"Kuntzman, Harry + Berta, Reuete Hotel, 1100 Ocean Dr, Miami Beach, Florida"
"Kamm - Michael, c/o Lindsay Warren, Greg Kamm, RR#1 Box #40, Koloa, Kauai, Hawaii 96756"
"Newman, Bob, 194 Bradsfordwoods, PA 15015"
"Schwartz, Sylvia + Sidney, 1655 F?lathirsh Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11210" [scratched out]
"Sylvia Schwartz, 395 South End Ave Apt 22F, NY City, NY"
"Gillespie, John, Carol, 95275 Starkweather, Gold Beach, OR 97444"
[Other names may become important as family becomes known]
- [S00115] 1940 US Census, New York, Kings, New York; Roll: T627_2552; Page: 61A; Enumeration District: 24-246. 4/8/1940.
Visit 103:
"1546"
"Kuntzman, Harry; home Owned, Head, Male, age 50, Married, highest grade H4, born Russia, Naturalized, residence 4/1/1935 Same House, occupation Butcher Meat Store Own Account"
"Kuntzman, Anna; Wife, Female, age 46, Married, highest grade H4, born Russia, residence 4/1/1935 Same House"
"Kuntzman, Rubin; Son, Male, age 23, Single, highest grade C-4, born New York, residence 4/1/1935 Same Place"
"Kuntzman, Sylvia; Daughter, Female, age 18, Single, highest grade H-4, born New York, residence 4/1/1935 Same House"
- [S00117] New York State Census, 1915 Census Place: Election District 38, Assembly District 23, New York, Kings, 16. 6-1-1915.
"Kuntzman Harry; Head, Male, age 24, born Russia, 6 years in US, Alien, occupation Butcher Own Account"
"Kuntzman, Anna; Mother Female, age 24, born Russia, 3 years in US, Alien, occupation Housewife"
"Kuntzman, Michael; Son, Male, age 9 months, born US, occupation Infant"
- [S00117] New York State Census, 1925, Census Place: Election District 59, Assembly District 02, Brooklyn, Kings, 36. 6/1/1925.
"1546 Coney Island Ave"
"Kuntzman Harry; Head, Male, age 36, born Russia, 17 years in US, Alien, occupation Butelier Own Account"
"Kuntzman, Anna; Mother Female, age 33, born Russia, 14 years in US, Alien, occupation Housewife"
"Kuntzman, Michael; Son, Male, age 17, born US, Citizen"
"Kuntzman, Ruben; Son, Male, age 9, born US, Citizen"
"Kuntzman, Sylvia; Daughter, Female, age 3, born US, Citizen"
- [S00094] Ancestry Trees, Kamm Family Tree, Linda Bickel, 11/27/2017.
"Gedaliah Kuntzman;
m Gedaliah's Wife –1913, Birth Unknown, Death BEFORE 1913 • Russia;
c Samuel Kuntzman 1884–1967, Harry Kuntzman 1886–1987;
c Harry Kuntzman, Birth 10 SEPT 1886 • Molevo, Smolensk, Russia, Death 15 AUG 1987 • Miami, Florida;
.. m Anya Gerbaczewa, Birth ABT 1893 • Russia, Death MAY 1972 • Florida; m 4 Jan Kings, New York;
.. c Michael L Kuntzman, 1914–1985, Reuben Kuntzman 1917–2010, Sylvia Kuntzman1923–2000;
"Yankel Shlomo Gerbaczewa, Birth ABT. 1874 • Russia, Death Unknown
m Bella Sena, Birth Russia, Death Unknown;
c Sadie Gerbaczewa 1886–1957, Anya Gerbaczewa, 1893–1972 ==>:"
- [S00230] Newspapers.com, Daily News (New York, New York) 08 May 1972, Mon Page 208.
"KUNTZMAN -- Anna. Beloved wife of Harry. Devoted mother of Sylvia Glaser, Robert and Michael. Cherished grandmother and great-grandmother."
- [S00272] 1950 US Census, New York, Kings, New York; Roll: 4038; Page: 1; Enumeration District: 24-241 3/31/1950.
Dwelling:
"1546 Coney Island Ave"
"Kuntzman, Harry; Head, Male, age 59, Married, born Russia, occupation Retail Butcher Own Account"
"Kuntzman, Anna; Wife, Female, age 55, Married, born Russia"
- [S00228] NOTES.
Logic: The 1930/1940 US Census have Harry, Anna, Michael, Ruben and Sylvia at the same address in Brooklyn as the WW II Draft registration, so the given birth date 16 Sept 1891 and birth location Smolensk, Russia are probably correct as well as being personally provided by Harry himself. Family lore (from Michael Kamm) said he was born on a ranch near Kiev which was in Russia. Smolensk is 300 miles north of Kiev and also on the Dnieper River. Both are in a region historically called the Kievan Rus so the family recollection or common name usage may mean they are the same place.
The WW I Draft Registraion confirms Harry as a butcher living in Brooklyn with wife and 2 children and so is firmly confirmed as well as being confermed by Harry himself, but the birth date is clearly 10 Sep 1886 in Molev, Russia which is Smolensk. So that birth date also seems quite reliable.
The Social Security Death Index gives 15 Oct 1887 and the Florida Death index gives 15 Aug 1887 which looks like a clerical error and from whomever reported the death.
- [S00056] Small Research, email 9/23/2009 through Ancestry.com.
"My information comes from a conversation in the mid-70s with my father-in-law, Michael Lewis Kuntzman, who changed his last name to Kamm. He was born in 1914, and Robert was his younger brother. My notes say: 1918 Robert born. Later changed his name to Kemp and married Geraldine who had a daughter, Carol. They had three children: Roberta, Amy, Andy. I know very little about my husband's family. According to Mike, Harry Kuntzman was born in 1889 to a cattle rancher near Kiev. He played slide trombone with a symphony in Europe. In 1911 he arrived in New York. Worked as a butcher's helper. Married Anya Gerb from Smolensk. Harry's uncle (?) married Anya's sister. He was a gambler and a horse thief. That's as far back as I've gotten.
Thanks for writing, Lindsay Kamm"
- [S00094] Ancestry Trees, Leibell Family Tree, James Carter, 11/27/2017.
"Gedaliah Kuntzman;
m Gedaliah's Wife, Birth Unknown, Death BEFORE 1913 • Russia;
c Samuel Kuntzman 1884–1967, Harry Kuntzman 1886–1987:
- [S00162] Ancestry, New York, New York, Marriage Index 1866-1937 Original data: Index to New York City Marriages, 1866-1937. Indices prepared by the Italian Genealogical Group and the German Genealogy Group, and used with permission of the New York City Department of Records/Municipal Archives.
"Annie Gerb
Marriage Date: 4 Jan 1914 Marriage Place: Kings, New York
Spouse: Harry Kuntzman
Certificate Number: 953"
- [S00094] Ancestry Trees, Kamm Family Tree, Linda Bickel, 11/27/2017.
"Gedaliah Kuntzman;
m Gedaliah's Wife –1913, Birth Unknown, Death BEFORE 1913 • Russia;
c Samuel Kuntzman 1884–1967, Harry Kuntzman 1886–1987;
c Harry Kuntzman, Birth 10 SEPT 1886 • Molevo, Smolensk, Russia, Death 15 AUG 1987 • Miami, Florida;
.. m Anya Gerbaczewa, Birth ABT 1893 • Russia, Death MAY 1972 • Florida; m 4 Jan Kings, New York;
.. c Michael L Kuntzman 1914–1985, Reuben Kuntzman 1917–2010, Sylvia Kuntzman 1923–2000;
"Yankel Shlomo Gerbaczewa, Birth ABT. 1874 • Russia, Death Unknown
m Bella Sena, Birth Russia, Death Unknown;
c Sadie Gerbaczewa 1886–1957, Anya Gerbaczewa, 1893–1972 ==>:"
[More on younger generations]
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1891 - 1987 (95 years)
, d. UNKNOWN