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- [S00093] Azores Ficha Bibliographica, Santa Cruz das Flores, Baptismos 1861-1865 Livro1 1861-1865.121.
"No 79, Margarida, Dia 5, Mes Novembro, Annio 1863"
"Los cinco dias do --- des Novembro do --- ala Conceição?, Concelho da Villa de Santa Cruz da Illia das Flores,
diocease de Angra, ---
--- di Jose Pimentel Ramos, canssorio? natural dela freguesia, e de Maria Isabel, canssoria? natural dela freguesia,
--- nia do Pimental dela freguesia,
--- de Manuel Pimentel Ramos e Maria do Jesus --- de Jose Thomas Carneiro e Maria Isabel. ---
--- Antonio Pimentel Ramos, Solteiro, ---
--- Maria de Jesus, Solteiro, ---"
[transliteration of original handwriting]
'Susan Murphy' email 11/12/2011:
"her parents are Jose Pimentel Ramos and Maria Isabel, paternal grandparents were Manuel Pimentel Ramos and Maria de
Jesus and maternal were Jose Thomas (maybe this is where you got that Thomas surname?) and Maria Isabel. Godparents
were Antonio Pimentel_____? solteiro (single) and Maria de Jesus , solteira"
[Antonio Pimentel Ramos was a brother of Jose.] [Maia's father's surname Thomas.]
- [S00101] Find-A-Grave.
"Margaret Izabel Renas Perry
Birth: Oct. 29, 1863, Santa Cruz, Azores Region, Portugal
Death: Feb. 15, 1958, Oakland, Alameda County, California, USA
Margaret was born in the village of Santa Cruz on the island of Flores in the Azores to Jose Pimentel Ramos and Maria Isabel. She was baptized on November 5, 1863. Her paternal grandparents Manuel Pimentel Ramos and Maria de Jesus. Her maternal grandparents were Jose Thomas Carneiro and Maria Isabel. Margaret's name is listed as Mararita Paulina on her marriage record. Margaret and her husband, Thomas Pereira (Perry), were married on October 19, 1868 in Mission San Jose, Calfornia and they lived in the town of Warm Springs at the beginning of their marriage. The family moved to Antioch, at least by 1886, and eventually to Berkeley sometime before 1908.
She was later known as having a maiden name of Renas. She is listed on her children Frank's baptism as Margarita Pimentel, on her son Joseph's as Margarita Leopoldina Pimentel and on her daughter Mary's baptism as Margarita P. Pimentel. Margaret was blind in her last years. When her family would come to visit, her great-granddaughter, Gail Knust Temple remembers that they would line up and she would feel them and and make some comment, like "Oh a big girl." and then they would go out to play. Margaret may have been sent for to marry her husband. Margaret's daughter, Margaret, said that her parents buried at least one child in Mission San Jose.
Her obituary appeared in the Oakland Tribune on February 17, 1958, page 27:
Margaret Perry In Oakland, February 15, 1958, beloved wife of the late Thomas F. Perry; loving mother of Anna S. Perry, Joseph R. and Henry Perry of Monterey, Frank J. Perry of Fresno, Mrs. Margaret Dobson, Mrs. Grace Church, Mrs. Emeline Alvers of Oakland, Mrs. Alvina Souza of Hayward and the late Magdaline Silveira and May E. Perry; grandmother of 9 grandchildren. A native of Flores, Azores. A member of S.P.R.S.I. Council #78 of Berkeley. Interment, St. Joseph's Cemetery.
Spouse: Thomas Francisco Perry (1849 - 1937)*
Children: Mary Ellen Perry (1884 - 1944)*, Anna Stella Perry (1887 - 1973)*
Burial: Saint Josephs Cemetery , San Pablo, Contra Costa County, California, USA
Created by: Susan Vargas Murphy, Record added: Oct 05, 2009, Find A Grave Memorial# 42728872"
- [S00128] Casis Das Flores - Azores Marriage Records 1675-1911, Page 594.
"José Pimentel Ramos [26 anos, f.º de Manuel Pimentel Ramos e de Maria de Jesus, n. p. de Francisco Pimentel Amaro e de Florência de São José e n. m. de José Francisco Fialho e de Maria Francisca] c. 1861.10.17 c. Maria Isabel [28 anos, v.ª, f.ª de José Tomás Pimentel e de Isabel de Jesus, n. p. de Manuel Rodrigues e de Ana Pimentel e n. m. de José Furtado e de Ana Rosa]."
[Jose 1861 - age 26 = born 1835] [Maria 1861 - age 28 = born 1833] [Maria v.ª, that is widow!]
- [S00016] California Death Index 1940-1997.
"John T Renas
Sex: MALE Birth Date: 10 Aug 1867 Birthplace: Rest of World Death Date: 9 Apr 1965 Death Place: Contra Costa Mother's Maiden Name: Thomas"
- [S00094] Ancestry Family Trees, Minta Family Tree, TheMinta, 4/7/2013.
"Joseph (Jose) Pimental Ramos, Birth 15 April 1835 Santa Cruz, Flores Island, Azores, Portugal, Death 29 Feb 1924 Contra Costa County, California
m Mary (Maria Isabel Carneiro) Thomas, Birth 1835 Flores Island, Azores, Portuga, Death 3 Oct 1927 Contra Costa, California
c Joseph Thomas Renas Sr.1861 – 1917, Margaret Izabel Renas 1863 – 1958, John Thomas Renas 1867 – 1965, Philomena A Renas1869 – 1952, Mary Margaret Renas 1873 – 1952, Emily E Renas 1877 – 1971"
- [S00172] Notes.
Logic: The Joseph P and Mary Ramos from the Azores in the 1880 Census matches the children and their ages. Also Joseph and Mary match the Azores baptismal record for daughter Margaret. Izabel.
The Renas photo album picture 30a says "Grandpa Renas' 1/2 sister, children, husband" which implies his father or mother remarried. Her Azores marriage record says Mary was a widow, and the 1910 Census shows this as Mary's second marriage (she was 26 so counld have had previous children.)
Problem: Need to search Azores records for Maria's first marrage and any children (to match the album picture of JTR's half-sister.)
http://gsmall.us/Family/Gimbel/Renas/index.html
- [S00091] Murphy S Research, email, 1/2/2012, File from Susan Swanson.
"22 Jose Pimentel Ramos. Born bef 1823. On 17 Oct 1861 when Jose Pimentel was 38, he married Maria Isabel Carneiro in Santa Cruz, Flores, Acores.
23 Maria Isabel Carneiro. Born aft 1833."
http://gsmall.us/Family/Gimbel/Notes/SwansonSusan-Ahnentafel-20120102-SusanMurphy.txt
- [S00011] 1920 US Census, Antioch, Contra Costa, California; Roll T625_95; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 20; Image: 474. 1/6/1920.
Dwelling 104 Family 129: "416 6th"
"Noia, Joseph E; Head, home Rented, Male, age 35, Single, born California, father born Azores, mother born Azores, Merchant Groceries Own"
"Noia, Philomena M; Mother, Female, age 50, Widowed, immigration 1876, Al, born Azores, father born Azores, mother born Azores, occupation Dressmaker at Home"
"Renas, J; Grandmother, Female, age 85, Married, immigrated 1876, Al, born Azores, father born Azores, mother born Azores, occupation None"
[Renas crossed out or written over a line meaning ditto. So either Philomena or Joseph's GM.]
[Probably Philomena's mother since immigration date the same. Confirms that Renas was Philomena's maiden name.]
[J Renas probably Mrs Joseph Renas]
- [S00009] 1900 US Census, Lone Tree, Contra Costa, California; Roll: 85; Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 0414; FHL microfilm: 1240085 6/4/1900.
Dwelling 51 Family 52:
"Roche, Manuel; Head, Male, born Feb 1868, age 32, Married 7 years, born Portugal, father born Portugal, mother born Portugal, immigrated 1883, 13 years in US, Naturalized, occupation Farmer Own, home Rented Farm"
"Roche, Mary M; Wife, Female, born July 1873, age 26, Married 7 years, 3 children 2 living, born Portugal, father born Portugal, mother born Portugal, immigrated 1881, 19 years in US"
"Roche, Lucy; Daughter, Female, born Aug? 1895, age 4, Single, born California, father born Portugal, mother born Portugal"
"Roche, Alfred; Son, Male, born Apr? 1898, age 2, Single, born California, father born Portugal, mother born Portugal"
Dwelling 52 Family 53:
"Renas, Mary; Wife, Female, born Nov 1834, age 65, Married 8 years, 7 children 3 living, born Portugal, father born Portugal, mother born Portugal, immigrated 1861, 39 years in US'
"Renas, Joseph; Head, Male, born Feb 1835, age 65, Married 8 years, born Portugal, father born Portugal, mother born Portugal, immigrated 1849, 51 years in US, Alien, occupation Farmer Own, home Rented Farm"
[No other Joseph Renas in 1900; Same Rocha family neighbor as 1910 and 1920.]
[Daughter Emily not at home? She would be 23 but not married until December?]
[Reliable records say married Oct 1861 so in June they would be married 38 years, so is this "8" really 38?]
[Problem: Mary Renas with 7 children and 3 living, but Joseph has 6 living? Is this Mary a second wife and really only married 8 years?]
http://www.us-census.org/states/california/teams/ContraCosta1900.htm
"414, Supervisor's District 5 (part) incl. Antioch town
Lone Tree, Antioch Nos 1 & 2 precincts. Bounded by: San Joaquin river, East line sections 12, 13, 24 and 25, T. 2 N., R. 2 E., south line section 25, east and south line section 35, east line section 3 T. 1 N., R. 2 E., South line sections 3, 4, 5, ?? 6, T. 1 N., R. 2 E., south ??e section 1 T. 1 N., R. 1 E., Supervisor's District line"
[http://gsmall.us/Family/Gimbel/CensusRecords/FamilyPages/1898USCensus-Map-LoneTreeContraCostaCa-800.jpg]
- [S00016] California Death Index 1940-1997.
"Mary E Renas
Birth Year: abt 1835 Death Date: 3 Oct 1927 Age at Death: 92 Death Place: Contra Costa, California"
[If born in November then she would have been 93 so 1927 - ae 93= b Nov 1934]
- [S00091] Murphy S Research, email 11/8/2011 Susan Murphy.
"... Margaret Renas. Her husband, Thomas Francisco Pereira, was the brother to my great grandmother, Filomena Augusta Pereira (they went also by Perry). They are buried at St Josephs Cemetery in Mission San Jose...her husband was Francisco Pereira Vargas.
I have Margaret in my database with the parents of Jose Pimentel Ramos and Maria Carneiro.....and that she was from Flores. The name Pimentel is very common in Flores. I got those names from their marriage record in Mission San Jose ... I have a picture of Thomas outside his house in Antioch with little girls in the picture... My grandmother used to talk about her uncle Thomas."
"Yes....that is the same picture that I have of Thomas Perry's house."
[Picture same as PerryThomasF-RenasMargaret-HouseAntiochCA.jpg, so connection is confirmed. GS]
- [S00010] 1910 US Census, Township 8, Contra Costa, California; Roll T624_75; Page: 19A; Enumeration District: 169; Image: 383. FHL microfilm: 1374088. 5/11/1910 [Lone Tree].
Dwelling 370 family 370:
"Rocha, Mary; Head, Female, age 36, Widowed, 3 children 2 living, born Portugal, father born Portugal, mothr born Portugal, occupation Farmer farming Employer, home Owned Free Farm"
"Rocha, Lucy; Daughter, Female, age 14, Single, born California, father born Portugal, mother born Portugal, occupation None"
Dwelling 372 Family 372:
"Azevedo, Joseph; Head, Male, age 26 Marriage 1 for 6 years, born Massachusetts, father born Portugal, mother born Portugal, occupation Farmer Farm Emp, home Owned Free Farm"
"Azevedo, Mary; Wife, Female, age 34, Marriage 2 6 years, 9 children 9 living, born California, father born Portugal, mother born Portugal"
"Azevedo, Joseph; Son, Male, age 17, Single, born California, father born Massachusetts, mother born California, occupation Laborer Farming Wages"
"Azevedo, Mary; Daughter, Female, age 16, Single, born California, father born Massachusetts, mother born California"
"Azevedo, Florence; Daughter, Female, age 14, Single, born California, father born Massachusetts, mother born California"
"Azevedo, Elizabeth; Daughter, Female, age 12, Single, born California, father born Massachusetts, mother born California"
"Azevedo, John; Son, Male, age 10, Single, born California, father born Massachusetts, mother born California"
"Azevedo, Jessie; Son, Male, age 8, Single, born California, father born Massachusetts, mother born California"
[first six children adoped from Mary's first husband John Mello born in Portugal not Massachusetts]
"Azevedo, Allen; Daughter, Female, age 4, Single, born California, father born Massachusetts, mother born California"
"Azevedo, Grace; Daughter, Female, age 3, Single, born California, father born Massachusetts, mother born California"
"Azevedo, Clara; Daughter, Female, age 13/12?, Single, born California, father born Massachusetts, mother born California"
Dwelling 373 Family 373:
"Renas, Joseph; Head, Male, age 69, Marriage 1, 39 years, born Portugal, father born Portugal, mother born Portugal, immigration 1874 Al, occupation Own Income, home Rented House"
"Renas, Mary; Wife, Female, age 74, Marriage 2, 39 years, born Portugal, father born Portugal, mother born Portugal, occupation None"
[Notice Marriage 2 for Mary. Did she have a daughter by the previous marriage, hence Joseph Thomas Renas' half-sister as per Photo album note?]
[Ages wrong, probably Joseph 74 because 65 in 1900.]
[Reliable records say they married Oct 1861 so in May they would be married 48 years. Marriage 2 for Mary is correct as their record says she married as a widow.]
- [S00123] Documents, Marriage Record, Mission San Jose, San Jose, California (Susan Vargas).
"[47} A D 1878 dielgoit in Matrimonium conjunxi Thomasiam
[eira] Francisium natum in Fayal ex Antonio Francisco Preira
[t] et Permalinda Candida Carabalha _ et Margaritam
[mentel] Paulinam natam in Flores ex Josepho Pementel Ramos
et Maria Carneiro coram duobus testibus Francisco
Antonio de Vargas et Magdalena Louisa Vargas
Antonio M Sanlanduen?"
[Image in Documents/RenasMargaretIsabel-PerryThomasF-Marriage-MissionSanjose-SanJoseCA-1878.jpg]
[Prefix in text above in square-brackets are the trailing part of a left colum cut off in the image]
- [S00008] 1880 US Census, Oakland, Alameda, California; Roll: 62; Family History Film: 1254062; Page: 528D; Enumeration District: 25; Image: 0626. 6/3/1880.
Dwelling 35 Family 35: "Washington Township"
"Thomas, Joseph; Male, age 36, occupation Farmer, born Azores, father born Azores, mother born Azores"
"Thomas, Manuela; Female, age 20, Wife, occupation Keeps House, born Aores, father born Azores, mother born Azores"
"Thomas, Thomas; Male, age 8/12, born Oct, Son, born California, father born Azores, mother born Azores"
Dwelling 36 Family 36:
"Ramos, Joseph P; Male, age 43, Married, occupation Farmer, born Azores, father born Azores, mother born Azores"
"Ramos, Maria; Female, age 42, Wife, Married, occupation Keeping House, born Azores, father born Azores, mother born Azores"
"Ramos, John; Male, age 12, Son, born Azores, father born Azores, mother born Azores"
"Ramos, Maria, Female, age 6, Daughter, occupation At Home, born Azores, father born Azores, mother born Azores"
"Ramos, Flemina; Female, age 9, Daughter, occupation At Home, born Azores, father born Azores, mother born Azores"
["Ramos, Camilla; Female, age 3, Daughter, occupation At Home, born California, father born Azores, mother born Azores"]
[Camillia shown in Ancestry transcription but not in image?? and not on next image page? Lost when copied from a previous version?]
- [S00093] Azores Ficha Bibliographica, Santa Cruz das Flores, Casamentos 1860-1867 Livro1 1860-1867.017.
"No. 12, Dia 17, --- Octobro, anno 1861,
Los dezessete dias el mes Octobro de anno
--- concelho da Villa de Santa Cruz da Ilha dos Flores,
--- Maria de
--- Jose Pimentel Ramos e Maria Isabel
--- baptismo --- filho legitimisso de Manuel Pimentel Ramos, trabalhador, e de Maria de Jesus,
---'
[transliteration needs more work]
'Susan Murphy' email 11/12/2011:
"Marriage of Jose Pimentel Ramos and Maria Isabel,...17 October 1861 dispensation for 4th degree consanguinity"
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